How To Disprove Evolution

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Posted October 13, 2010 at 11:15 pm

Today, an increasing number of people in the world believe in the theory of Darwinian evolution. In particular, the vast majority of institutions of higher learning in most of the nations of the world only teach that all life on earth “evolved” from a single cell which somehow popped into existence. So is this theory actually true? Of course not. In fact, this article is going to teach you how to disprove evolution very easily. The truth is that no species has ever been observed changing into another one. Neither are there any transitional fossils which show one species “evolving” into another species. Rather, what we see in the fossil record is the very sudden appearance of fully-formed complex life. This is much more consistent with a creationist paradigm than it is with a Darwinian paradigm, but the scientific community doesn’t seem to care. In fact, if you believe that we were created by God, you will be automatically blackballed by the academic community in both the United States and in Europe. The truth is that if you want to be accepted in the academic world today you must have complete and total blind faith in Darwinian evolution.

But what else should we expect? The Scriptures told us that men would choose to deliberately forget that God created the world in the last days. 2 Peter 3:3-7 says the following….

First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

Isn’t that so true? The scientific community has chosen to “deliberately forget” that God created the world, and instead they have manufactured an incredibly elaborate cover story to explain how we all got here.

But God says that we are all without excuse. The Scriptures tell us that all men should know that there is a God simply by looking at the created things around them. In Romans 1:18-20 it says the following….

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

But isn’t there a ton of evidence for the theory of evolution?

No, there is not.

A while back, Jerry A. Coyne, a professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolution at The University of Chicago, authored an article in USA Today entitled “Science And Religion Aren’t Friends“. In his article, Coyne repeatedly rips all forms of religion, making such statements as: “science is no more compatible with religion than with other superstitions, such as leprechauns.”

So being the curious sort that I am, I ventured over to his website, Why Evolution Is True, hoping to find some decent arguments for Darwinian evolution. Well, it turns out that the site is mostly just one big advertisement for his book, so I was disappointed once again.

You see, for years I have pleaded with evolutionists to please tell me what the best pieces of evidence for the theory of evolution are. I have challenged them to lay out for me a basic outline of the facts that “prove” that Darwinism is true.

Perhaps you think you can do it.

I’ll even get you started…..

With so many billions of people around the world now believing in evolution you would think that this would be an easy exercise.

But it is not.

Why?

Because evolution is simply not true.

The reality is that science, logic and reason all favor creationism.

And shouldn’t science, logic and reason trump any personal agenda that anyone is trying to push?

You would think so.

The truth is that once you learn the truth, you are ashamed that you ever believed in the hoax of Darwinian evolution….

“I myself am convinced that the theory of evolution, especially the extent to which it’s been applied, will be one of the great jokes in the history books of the future. Posterity will marvel that so very flimsy and dubious an hypothesis could be accepted with the incredible credulity that it has.”

-Malcolm Muggeridge (world famous journalist and philosopher), Pascal Lectures, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.

The evidence is just not there for Darwinism. It has been manufactured out of whole cloth in most cases.

In fact, Dr. Lyall Watson once stated the following….

“The fossils that decorate our family tree are so scarce that there are still more scientists than specimens. The remarkable fact is that all of the physical evidence we have for human evolution can still be placed, with room to spare, inside a single coffin!”

Even some of our most prominent magazines have admitted that there is very little evidence to back up the theory of evolution. For example, a 1994 article in Time Magazine (which is radically pro-evolution) made the following stunning statement….

“Yet despite more than a century of digging, the fossil record remains maddeningly sparse. With so few clues, even a single bone that doesn’t fit into the picture can upset everything. Virtually every major discovery has put deep cracks in the conventional wisdom and forced scientists to concoct new theories, amid furious debate.”

So with such a flimsy foundation, shouldn’t evolutionary scientists at least call Darwinism a “theory” rather than a fact?

No, they keep insisting it is “fact” and that any scientist who disagrees must be blackballed by the rest of the scientific community.

But what does the science really say?

Well, the following are three key points which you can use to disprove evolution.

#1 If the theory of evolution was true, we should have discovered millions upon millions of transitional fossils by now.

So do we have millions of transitional fossils?

No.

In fact, we do not have any.

The following is how one very prominent evolutionist once described what we have actually found in the fossil record….

“I fully agree with your comments on the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them. You suggest that an artist should be used to visualise such transformations, but where would he get the information from? I could not, honestly, provide it, and if I were to leave it to artistic license, would that not mislead the reader?”

-Dr. Colin Patterson, senior paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History (and a hardcore evolutionist), in a letter to Luther Sunderland, April 10, 1979.

Wow.

Let that sink in for a moment.

The senior paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History did not know of a single transitional fossil to include in his book about evolution.

In fact, there are a large number of evolutionists that are noticing this little “problem”….

“The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution.”

Stephen Jay Gould (Professor of Geology and Paleontology, Harvard University), “Is a new and general theory of evolution emerging?” Paleobiology, vol. 6(1), January 1980, p. 127

Did you get what Professor Gould is saying there?

He actually admitted that they even have trouble imagining transitional forms.

How bizarre is that?

Remember, these are quotes from big time evolutionists.

Here is another one….

“Contrary to what most scientists write, the fossil record does not support the Darwinian theory of evolution because it is this theory (there are several) which we use to interpret the fossil record. By doing so we are guilty of circular reasoning if we then say the fossil record supports this theory.”

Ronald R. West, PhD (paleoecology and geology) (Assistant Professor of Paleobiology at Kansas State University), “Paleoecology and uniformitarianism”. Compass, vol. 45, May 1968, p. 216

Circular reasoning?

Isn’t that what atheists usually accuse Christians of doing?

At this point, many Darwinists will usually trot out the same handful of incredibly weak, totally laughable examples of “transitional forms” that have been debunked and discredited time after time.

For example “Archaeopteryx” has been used as “proof” of evolution for years, mostly because scientists can’t find anything better to support their case. Fortunately, it is very easy to debunk….

http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v1/i1/archaeopteryx.asp

The cold, hard truth of the matter is that if Darwinian evolution was true there would be millions and millions and millions of very clear transitional fossils in the fossil record.

But their “theory” has a huge problem.

The fossils are simply not there.

“Lastly, looking not to any one time, but to all time, if my theory be true, numberless intermediate varieties, linking closely together all the species of the same group, must assuredly have existed. But, as by this theory, innumerable transitional forms must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth?”

-Charles Darwin

There are millions and millions of fossilized creatures out there. So why can’t we find tons of transitional forms among all of those fossils?

Well, as one prominent evolutionist once explained, it is because they simply are not there….

“In fact, the fossil record does not convincingly document a single transition from one species to another.”

-Evolutionist Stephen M. Stanley, Johns Hopkins University

So, in the final analysis, what the science actually reveals is that the “missing links” have always been missing and they always will be missing because they were never there in the first place.

#2 If the theory of evolution was true, then we should see an “evolutionary tree” in the fossil record, with complex life developing very slowly from earlier, less complex forms. Instead, what we do see in the fossil record is the very sudden appearance of fully-formed and fully-functional complex life.

If you examine the fossil record, you see all kinds of complex life suddenly jumping into existence during a period that evolutionists refer to as the “Cambrian explosion”.

None of the fossilized life forms found in the “Cambrian period” have any predecessors prior to that time. In essence, the “Cambrian period” represents a “sudden explosion of life” in geological terms.

So how do evolutionists get around this?

Well, by using one of their favorite tricks. When something seems unbelievable they just stretch it over a long period of time.

Many evolutionists say that while it may “appear” that complex life suddenly appeared on earth, in reality the Cambrian explosion was about 50 million years long.

Of course this is a bunch of nonsense, and they still can’t produce any transitional fossils from before that time period or from during that time period, but nevertheless they persist in their delusions.

For much more on how complex life seemingly appeared on earth very suddenly and out of nowhere, please watch this YouTube video.

The truth is that complex life first appeared on the earth in a very sudden, explosive manner.

“The earliest and most primitive members of every order already have the basic ordinal characters, and in no case is an approximately continuous series from one order to another known. In most cases the break is so sharp and the gap so large that the origin of the order is speculative and much disputed”

-Paleontologist George Gaylord

The reality is that complex life appears in the fossil record fully-formed and fully-functional….

A major problem in proving the theory has been the fossil record; the imprints of vanished species preserved in the Earth’s geological formations. This record has never revealed traces of Darwin’s hypothetical intermediate variants – instead species appear and disappear abruptly, and this anomaly has fueled the creationist argument that each species was created by God.

-Paleontologist Mark Czarnecki (an evolutionist)

There is no denying it.

There is no getting around it.

Even renowned atheist Richard Dawkins has really struggled with how to explain this phenomenon….

“It is as though they [fossils] were just planted there, without any evolutionary history. Needless to say this appearance of sudden planting has delighted creationists. Both schools of thought (Punctuationists and Gradualists) despise so-called scientific creationists equally, and both agree that the major gaps are real, that they are true imperfections in the fossil record. The only alternative explanation of the sudden appearance of so many complex animal types in the Cambrian era is divine creation and both reject this alternative.”

-Richard Dawkins, ‘The Blind Watchmaker’, W.W. Norton & Company, New York, 1996, pp. 229-230

Now which worldview does the sudden appearance of fully-formed, fully-functional complex life in the fossil record support?

It is all so clear if you are willing to use even an ounce of common sense.

#3 Evolutionists are at a complete and total loss when it comes to trying to explain the creation of new information that is required for one animal to turn into another animal.

Evolutionists cannot show us a single example of functional new information being added to any creature ever.

One creation scientist explains it this way….

“The key issue is the type of change required — to change microbes into men requires changes that increase the genetic information content, from over half a million DNA ‘letters’ of even the ‘simplest’ self-reproducing organism to three billion ‘letters’ (stored in each human cell nucleus).”

The truth is that species just don’t change. Future generations of dogs may have more hair or less hair, they may be a bit bigger or a bit smaller, they may be a little nicer or a little meaner, but they will never, ever sprout jet engines out of their behinds and learn to fly. It just is not going to happen.

Dogs are always going to be dogs.

Cats are always going to be cats.

People are always going to be people.

Evolutionist Stephen J. Gould of Harvard University put it this way during a lecture at Hobart & William Smith College….

“Every paleontologist knows that most species don’t change. That’s bothersome….brings terrible distress. ….They may get a little bigger or bumpier but they remain the same species and that’s not due to imperfection and gaps but stasis. And yet this remarkable stasis has generally been ignored as no data. If they don’t change, its not evolution so you don’t talk about it.”

The evidence for evolution simply is not there.

If you ever find yourself in a debate with an evolutionist, lay the following question on them and see what happens….

“Do you have enough blind faith to believe that life just popped into existence from nonlife, and that such life just happened to have the ability to take in the nourishment it needed, to expel waste, and to reproduce itself, all the while having everything it needed to survive in the environment in which it suddenly found itself?”

The truth is that evolutionists do not have a good answer for that question.

And here are four more questions that evolutionists do not have answers for:

1) Which evolved first: blood, the heart, or the blood vessels for the blood to travel through?

2) Which evolved first: the mouth, the stomach, the digestive fluids, or the ability to poop?

3) Which evolved first: the windpipe, the lungs, or the ability of the body to use oxygen?

4) Which evolved first: the bones, ligaments, tendons, blood supply, or the muscles to move the bones?

Conceivably, you could continue this exercise forever. The reality is that the body has a huge variety of incredibly complex systems which completely rely on other incredibly complex systems in order to function. Evolutionists just tend to completely ignore this bit of common sense.

There are so many examples of irreducible complexity that you could write a whole series of books on the topic and just scratch the surface. For example, there are a whole host of extremely complicated chemical reactions which must occur in just the right order for blood clotting to take place. If one of these steps is missing, blood clotting simply will not work.

But without blood clotting, how did the first animals survive?

The following excerpt is from an article by Robert Harsh that describes the almost unbelievable intricacy of blood clotting….

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1. A cut occurs and Hageman Factor sticks to the surface of cells near the wound. Bound Hageman Factor reacts with another enzyme called HMK to produce Activated Hageman.

2. Pre Kallikrein reacts with Activated Hageman to produce Kallikrein.

3. Hageman Factor also reacts with HMK and Kallikrein to form Activated Hageman.

4. PTA reacts with Activated Hageman and HMK to produce Activated PTA.

5. Christmas Factor reacts with Activated PTA and Convertin to produce Activated Christmas Factor.

6. Antihemophilic Factor is activated by Thrombin to produce Activated Antihemophilic Factor.

7. Stuart Factor reacts with Activated Christmas Factor and Activated Antihemophilic Factor to produce Activated Stuart Factor.

8. Proconvertin is activated by Activated Hageman Factor to produce Convertin.

9. When a cut occurs, Tissue Factor (which is only found outside of cells) is brought in near the wound where it reacts with Convertin and Stuart Factor to produce Activated Stuart Factor. (Note that step 9 involves an extrinsic process whereas step 7 is an intrinsic process.)

10. Proaccelerin is activated by Thrombin to produce Accelerin.

11a. GLU-Prothrombin reacts with Prothrombin Enzyme and Vitamin K to produce GLA-Prothrombin. (Note that Prothrombin cannot be activated in the GLU form so it must be formed into the GLA form. In this process ten amino acids must be changed from glutamate to gama carboxy glutamate.)

11b. GLS-Prothrombin is then able to bind to Calcium. This allows GLA-Prothrombin to stick to surfaces of cells. Only intact modified Calcium-Prothrombin Complex can bind to the cell membrane and be cleaved by Activated Stuart and Accerlerin to produce Thrombin.

12. Prothrombin-Ca (bound to cell surface) is activated by Activated Stuart to produce Thrombin.

13.Prothrombin also reacts with Activated Stuart and Accelerin to produce Thrombin. (Step 13 is much faster than step 12.)

14. Fibrinogin is activated by Thrombin to produce Fibrin. Threads of Fibrin are the final clot. However, it would be more effective if the Fibrin threads could form more cross links with each other.

15. FSF (Fibrin Stabilizing Factor) is activated by Thrombin to form Activated FSF.

16. When Fibrin reacts with Activated FSF many more cross ties are made with other Fibrin filaments to form a more effective clot.

Well now, I am wondering to myself whether you are experiencing frustration or intrigue, weariness, or excitement. There are a lot of details but let me ask you a leading question. Is this intricate system something that man developed or is it something that man has discovered? Blood clotting is not an invention of man. It is the invention of either God or “Mother Nature” (i.e., it invented itself). Regardless of how you believe the clotting cascade came to be, the fact remains that blood clotting is a clear example of irreducible complexity.

Let us next consider that this irreducibly complex system of blood clotting must have a way to remove the clot once the wound has healed. How is this done?

17a. A blood protein, Plasminogin is activated by + – Pa to produce Plasmin. This acts like tiny chemical scissors which cuts up the Fibrin filaments of the clot.

17b. The rate at which the clot is broken up is controlled by yet another blood protein named Alpha 2 Antiplasm, which in turn inactivates Plasmin. One of the most important parts of this whole blood clotting machine is the ability it has to keep the clotting localized to the area of the wound and to stop the clotting cascade. What is the biggest killer of human beings? That’s right, blood clots. Most heart attacks and strokes are caused by blood clots lodging. I believe the way your body shuts down the clotting cascade is as fascinating as the clotting process itself.

18. Antithrombin inactivates Activated Christmas, Activated Stuart and Thrombin.

19. Protein C is activated by Thrombin to produce Activated Protein C.

20. Activated Protein C inactivates Accelerin and Activated Antihemophilic.

21. Finally, Thrombomodulin which lines the inside of your blood vessels prevents Thrombin from activating Fibrinogin.

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Are you starting to get the picture?

So how did blood clotting possibly evolve?

Which of the steps evolved first?

How did “evolution” know that all the rest of the steps were needed?

And there are literally thousands of other examples just like this.

When you really get down to analyzing it, it is just not too difficult to disprove evolution.

In addition, if evolution is true, then where in the world are all the bones? If the theory of Darwinism is even remotely accurate, we should be absolutely swimming in bones….

Today the population grows at 2% per year. If we set the population growth rate at just 0.5% per year, then total population reduces to zero at about 4500 years ago. If the first humans lived 1,000,000 years ago, then at this 0.5% growth rate, we would have 10^2100 (ten with 2100 zeroes following it) people right now. If the present population was a result of 1,000,000 years of human history, then several trillion people must have lived and died since the emergence of our species. Where are all the bones? And finally, if the population was sufficiently small until only recently, then how could a correspondingly infinitesimally small number of mutations have evolved the human race?

So where did all the bones go?

Can you answer that question?

In addition, I have issued a standing challenge to all evolutionists, skeptics and atheists to go and try to debunk these videos….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYLHxcqJmoM&feature=PlayList&p=C805D4953D9DEC66&index=0&playnext=1

If you can actually debunk those videos then you are better than any evolutionist I have ever met.

The truth is that the more you investigate it, the more you discover that the science actually backs up creationism.

“Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever. In explaining evolution, we do not have one iota of fact.”

-Dr. T. N. Tahmisian (Atomic Energy Commission, USA) in “The Fresno Bee”, August 20, 1959. As quoted by N. J. Mitchell, Evolution and the Emperor’s New Clothes, Roydon Publications, UK, 1983, title page.

“Evolutionism is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless.”

-Professor Louis Bounoure, past president of the Biological Society of Strassbourg, Director of the Strassbourg Zoological Museum and Director of Research at the French National Center of Scientific Research.

The truth is that even world famous atheist Richard Dawkins admits that it is “possible” that we were intelligently designed. He is just convinced that it was definitely not God that did the designing….

So after reading all of this do you still believe in the theory of evolution?

Do you actually still believe that the science supports Darwinism?

Are you starting to see that things may not be as clear cut as you have been taught in the past?

Are you beginning to understand how easy it is to disprove evolution?

In the end, what all of us should want is the truth. Perhaps we can all learn from each other. Please feel free to post a comment below with your contribution to the creation/evolution debate….

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http://N/a Troy

I TOTALLY AGREE!!
During all of recorded human activity there has never been a substantiated case of a living thing being produced from anything other than another living thing- That’s the bottom line
Logically if there is nothing, then nothing can happen. Nothing is nothing.

To say before weather and the world and light and darkness that there were these molecules and they where in this water that got hit by a lighting bolt and it changed it into this life giving cell. It takes more faith to believe that then it does to believe your bible!!

There is only one chance in 8 x 10 to the 63rd power, or 80 with 63 zeros after it that such a thing could be done. If such a set of predictions existed, it would have to be the Word of God.
http://eggbertx.theoks.net Josh

I took a look at that Why evolution is true website. That guy seems to have the all maturity and intelligence of an angsty, insecure, middle school kid. “This just in: Glenn Beck a moron” Huh, real scholarly, PROFESSOR
Tomtom

Wow, this was really amusing! Thank you.
kevin

i totally agree, i am a believer, and i feel the same way. i have been trying to convince my friends that evolution isn’t true, but they keep bringing up neanderthals, saying that they are half species. they also claim that they are not found in a large amount because they say it was uncommon for things to fossilize in those times and very unlikely that it would remain intact until now. could you please help? thanks.

Kevin
http://N/a Troy

Romans 1:18—
But GOD shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, evil men who push away the truth from them. For the truth about GOD is known to them instinctively, GOD has put this knowledge in their hearts. Since earliest times men have seen the earth and sky and all that GOD made, and known of his existence and great eternal power. [they will have no excuse when the stand before him at judgment day]
John Galt

You are confusing a process which we have observed in nature called “natural selection” with a loaded and overused word “evolution”. The former describes a scientific theory of a biological process with plenty of evidence, the latter is a word for a hypothesis that many are repelled by. Modern medicine includes the knowledge gained by the study of “natural selection”, viruses adapt to drugs and they do this through the process of natural selection. Man participates in this process by creating all the breeds of dogs which derived from the wolf, this however is called “unnatural selection”. No scientist will say that he knows all life came from a single celled organism, this part, is simply a hypothesis held by some. If your reading this, then you know how science can change our lives through technology, which is impossible without open-minded inquiry into the workings of the world. The above article on disproving evolution demonstrates nothing but a complete misunderstanding of the theory of “natural selection” and the methods of science in general.
http://coleensosa.co.cc/ Coleen Sosa

Wow, this was really amusing! Thank you.
http://ambalongforum emmie ambalong nazareth

i dont believe that i came from the family of ape, Thats awful……I am a special creation of God and JESUS came to save me!!!
john codman

Thank you for reinforcing what God has taught us. Evolution is just another distraction to try and lead us away from the truth.
ajsp

nonsense
He*** S***

I believe in the Lord Almighty. Also i have heard from a pastor at a retreat that God loaded creation to Micro-Evolve(from dog to chiwaha and other breeds) because he tells them to go and be numerous which can only happen if the animals can adapt. And if you take away the part where Darwin say life started very simple and advanced, he basically scientifical proofed how amazing our God.
Douchebag

I independently believe that god exists. Why would there else ever be such a thing as a flaud human being? since i’m made in god’s image I take pride in my small ears, ’cause if I have small ears and most people don’t, that means I’m special cause my god has small ears.
And even if I can’t fully understand why the other’s at school flush my head in the toilet(thanks to hollywood) and hit me in the face, i know that the lord is watching over me and that this is his plan. I can stand against all ’cause I have the love of the lord. It makes me strong and when someone harrasses me i know that I probably deserve for not living sinlessy enough, on the other hand I don’t understand why god would make man in his image and make the bully aswell? The bible clearly states thatgod is no bully so why do bully’s exist? – an ever beliving Godfearer.
Freethinker

Dumbass.
Moses

HEY! What the hell man. How can you treat a fellow christian that way? There are lots of things that aren’t explained in the world. I myself wonder still why James in the trailer next to mine follows me home every day, or why he watches the children. But still, I know God has a plan for me and for him, no one left behind. So why don’t you ******* yourself in the ********, you atheist piece of whore. God knows me and he loves me, and he will send you to burn in hell forever!
Joost

Wow… just by providing so much ‘evidence’ (and I use the term lightly) you have proven to me you are so shaken in your beliefsystem.
People that believe in the bible and god always do this. Use so many words to describe stuff… try to pull things out of context and quote people that believe their opposite to prove their point… But it sadly does not work that way. Because I can just say: “Dinosaurs” and you lose.

Question #1: Just the fact we found a single fossil is evidence enough the story of genesis is not in fact real and made up. We don’t need millions of fossils. Explain 1 fossil first.

Question #2: There aren’t billions of fossils because… over time, every carbon based lifeform decays. We know that because christians that were burried 2000 years ago aren’t there anymore. So even when you believe in bible stuff you know this to be true. (duh)

Question #3: Just because scientist don’t know something, doesn’t mean it’s not real. That’s what science is… Asking questions and doing research. Scientist used to be at a total loss why people were dying of the plague. And they said it was god who was angry over something. Now we know what bacteria are: Ow wow… nobody thinks the flu is punishment by god anymore. Another word I can win the argument with: Bacteria… Why aren’t they mentioned in the bible? Because at the time nobody knew they were there. This is a trend you see. All things that are in the world and not in the bible have been discovered after the middle ages. Whoopee! It’s all a big grandpa in the sky people!

It’s sad to me that you need something in your life to understand the reason of all things. I can’t blame you. Billions of people have needed it ever since the beginning of time. It’s just sad that you still need it.
Landon

Who ever wrote this article must have been high or just retarded 1. Scientists have no problem showing evolution just type in human evolution and look at a good video 2. If it’s so hard to believe the universe was created by the big bang theory then how can you believe god created everything 3. Christians believe the earth is only 10000 years old but carbon dating completely disproves that
Landon

By the way, Troy where did you even get that last fact and even if it is true it’s a better chance than there being a god
Unicorn

Dinosaurs… And do us all a favor and watch the first twenty minutes of 2001 A Space Odyssey
Coleby

#3 Evolutionists are at a complete and total loss when it comes to trying to explain the creation of new information that is required for one animal to turn into another animal.

Growing up in a christian community this was an argument that I heard used frequently. I accepted it as truth simply because I was told it was fact by people I respected. Sadly, it has no basis in truth. It might have been a legitimate argument 40-50 years ago, but we know how this works now. The discovery of chromosome duplications, gene duplications, HOX genes, and simple addition mutations which add single nitrogenous bases to the DNA strand all explain and provide evidence for new DNA being added to a genome.
Tristan

1. Fossils… TAKES MILLIONS OF YEARS TO MAKE THEM. Your religion says earth is only 10000 years old when there is even proof that just humans been around for 300000.2. Bible claims god as an eternity. He get bored one day in all his previous eternity of existince and decide to cretae something to humor him? 3. Fossil fuels… takes millions of years to make crude oil. You think god put that here so we can burn up all his creations? Let me guess god has a bigger plan? Well if it was already planned to the doom in the end why did he start it in the first place? 4. Man has created synthetic life… means no soul or spirit is needed to spark life because we clearly cant make souls. 5. The bible has things in it that completly contridict itself… such as the birth place of jesus and geological refrences it states and dont or could not have ever existed there. And burials of jews insde ther churches .its against their religion to bury in the town let alone a place for worship. And many ither factors thats simply to long too list. 6. Many kinds of religion. You believe in christ bc you came from a place tht told you too…. had you been born elsewhere you would believe differently bc that culture told you too. People have been using religion as a crutch and a form of government ever since primative man has learned the ability of language and art. Social times were tough thise days bc we were prey mostly to big cats so the wondering mind of an almost extinct race created religion to bring the few together and make them a team n army a civilizaton and eventually it became as sophisticated and as diverse as what you look at today
Tristan

O and one other thing… evolution and extinction happens on a daily basis… disease for example… newer better stronger diseases come out every year… this happens because several people are exposed to this and as it breeds and contaminates others it gives birth to something slightly better… humans do the same thing… with every child being born there are certain things they gain or lose depending o the stack of mixed dna they recieve. Naturally they try to sort out and deiver the best combination of the two different genetics but like all things on earth it cant always be perfect. Loss f eessive body hair on many adult males is a good example. Native americans inability to grow facial hair. Blacks being naturally resistant to lice. Higher calf mussles for faster running and higher jumping in a much needed place on earth. Presence of much more and darker melatonin to help absorb much of the hot suns uv rays. Asians with slanted eyes to shield of light and wind. Larger brains to help cope with the numerous population. And many other things to long to list. Its not gods creation that did this its the climate adaptations we have all aquired to best suit our surroundings. And its coincidence that chimps dna matches our 99%? One percent difference is all there is and that one percent we have was made up for in our 300000 years of evolution and a constanly ever changing surrounding. To me soumds like creationism is not the answer for those topics… and creationist have to argument to defend their side other than a man wrote story and faith… you have nothing other than that book that says god is real and he never signed it or personally wrote one word in it. Man wrote it over years and hell there is even multiple versions and interpretations of that one gods alleged book. Is god the author to all the forms of christianity? Clearly not seeing how they are on opposing sides. So just because evolutionists cant prove everything dont make it not real. You cant prove anything from that book to be real. You just use man written verses out of context that are said to be in the name of god. If god wrote the book himself and had a pic of himself in the back with his signature on it i might then find religion a litle easier to believe in. But then again you just keep using your answer faith to solve and or disprove all your compliclicated science related questions. If i believed in santa des that make him real? You cant prove he existss or not?
Project Pat

I think that you are on drugs if you can write something like this and actually believe it. You are not only 100% wrong but you are taking the bible literally. In doing this you make yourself sounds so retarded that you don’t sound serious in your claim. besides using the bible as your reference, what other evidence can you show for being created by god. god is a human idea. before humans and the bible how did people know of god if the bible wasn’t there to back up the idea of god. your claims are totally off base and i feel sorry for you life.
Amy

Consciousness evolves. People don’t evolve from monkeys. We come from other star systems. We were seeded here on this physical 3D plane we call Earth. There are MANY other dimensions that your soul will EVOLVE through. God is unconditional LOVE energy. We are all aspects of God in physical form (“Ye ARE gods” Psalm 82:6) …here in this dense Earthly plane of duality (polarity) in order to master the lesson of balancing the spiritual with the material (Ying/Yang)…humankind is failing miserably. Western religion is such a fear inducing propaganda machine. Consciousness evolves. Yes, we were created by others we probably called “gods”…after all time is not linear, it spirals. If you jumped out of an airplane with your parachute and flight suit and landed in cave man times with your iPhone and digital camera…you’d be called “gods” as well. I’m betting if Ezekiel were around today to describe the fiery chariot he saw he might use the term “spaceship” or “UFO”.
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All radiometric dating methods are based on assumptions about events that happened in the past. If the assumptions are accepted as true (as is typically done in the evolutionary dating processes), results can be biased toward a desired age. In the reported ages given in textbooks and other journals, these evolutionary assumptions have not been questioned, while results inconsistent with long ages have been censored. When the assumptions were evaluated and shown faulty, the results supported the biblical account of a global Flood and young earth. Christians should not be afraid of radiometric dating methods. Carbon-14 dating is really the friend of Christians, and it supports a young earth.

The RATE scientists are convinced that the popular idea attributed to geologist Charles Lyell from nearly two centuries ago, “The present is the key to the past,” is simply not valid for an earth history of millions or billions of years. An alternative interpretation of the carbon-14 data is that the earth experienced a global flood catastrophe which laid down most of the rock strata and fossils…. Whatever the source of the carbon-14, its presence in nearly every sample tested worldwide is a strong challenge to an ancient age. Carbon-14 data is now firmly on the side of the young-earth view of history.14
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Is everyone here that dense…..All this trash talk about “oh yeah…well..you can’t prove God is real….What about Santa?.” Please..Just because you haven’t the faith in god..you trash it. Well..THERE’S NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE THAT SUPS. EVOLUTION..THERE ARE TOO MANY GAPS. Why do we still have monkeys?? Didn’t they change into us?? Why do we have fish?? So some guy finds a dolphin bone (on top of a mountain I might add…hmm..can you say flood??) and several hundred miles away they find a monkey bone..and presto!! We have found the missing link!!!.. EVERYTHING the Bible sais HAS happened. Get over it..Are you on drugs? Are you retarded? Prove it. But just as you learned there wasn’t enough evidence to show Santa is real..you don’t buy that crap anymore. Now..there is NO PROOF or EVIDENCE that supports your ideas. But hey! What does that matter. How can any of you look at a human life, birth, vision, a young child, and say there’s no God….Oh how I fell sorry for YOUR sad directionless, fall for anything life as well. I did see a monkey flinging crap at the zoo as you are….I guess we are related…
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Evolutionist Stephen J. Gould of Harvard University put it this way during a lecture at Hobart & William Smith College….

“Every paleontologist knows that most species don’t change. That’s bothersome….brings terrible distress. ….They may get a little bigger or bumpier but they remain the same species and that’s not due to imperfection and gaps but stasis. And yet this remarkable stasis has generally been ignored as no data. If they don’t change, its not evolution so you don’t talk about it.”

Yall miss this part?
Critical Thinker

Thanks for the hilarious read!
Forwarding it to all my buddies who need a good laugh.

P.S. Do some new research, although I’m skeptical you could understand any of the material. Your research is very outdated. The missing transition fossils you seem to rely so heavily on in your argument are extremely abundant. I just did a search term for “transitional fossils” on a scholarly article database and got over a hundred results just from the past year alone.
As for life coming from nothing, well I suggest you research the RNA World hypothesis.

The Creationist is stuck in his way of thinking due to faith. A good scientist never holds onto a hypothesis (or even a theory) steadfast; for new data is always pouring in and it is the job of a good scientist to interpret this data in the most logical way possible taking into account all background information. This is what separates creationists and scientists; we are flexible in changing what we believe while you cannot. This fact alone should attest to the validity of natural selection and evolution. If there was a better hypothesis out there we would be adhering to that, even if it’s creationism.

-Microbiologist
monkeys

if you had ever attended a single lesson on natural selection you would know that we still have monkeys because their environments have remained constant. any mutations or adaptations that may have appeared would have eventually disappeared because they would have offered no advantage in reproduction or survival. humans have evolved because the habitat we lived in changed. individuals with adaptations that allowed them to reproduce better in their changing habitat would have passed these adaptations on to their offspring causing the species to evolve over a long period of time.
http://ww.jesus.org Pastor Bobby Dufrane

Why I know That There is a God and That He Loves Me

A Personal Testimony.

Allow me to share a story. Not too long ago doubt was creeping into my head about the Lord and then a miracle happened.

It was 3 years ago and 50 members of my church were enroute to a bible camp in the Blueridge Mountains of Virginia. They were traveling in a chartered bus. As they sang blessed hymns to the Lord, Satan was up to his old tricks. You see, the bus driver was an atheist socialist and that day his coffee mug was filled with vodka. As the bus wound up through the switchbacks, the driver became progressively drunker. Then it happened. It was that day that changed this poor sinner’s life forever. Entering a particularly tight switchback, the besotted driver finally lost control of the bus and it plummeted 1500 feet down into a ravine where it exploded into a fireball incinerating the flock. The only survivor that fateful day was a young boy who was thrown from the bus by his father seconds before it hit the bottom.

This young boy suffered severe brain damage from hitting a rock head first and will have to wear a football helmet and drool cup for the remainder of his life. But his survival proved to me that miracles do happen because God does exist and loves me. The Lord caused that accident to bring me back to his flock.

Hallelujah!

Praise Jesus! Just open your eyes to his miracles and you will see him everywhere.
James

You try to disprove evolution, backing a theory with absolutely no proof with a distinctly 100% chance of not ever having any. Way to go.
Chris Chan

Your right! Ain’t no such thing as EVILution! Our awesome God put us here, just as we are1! If we was evolved from animals, why can’t any of them talk or drive a car? Besides, how else do you think we came out looking just like God? A grate cosmic acident? Hahaha!

Face it Athiests – Adam & Eve is our great grandparents and you’re religion is fake!!!
Heathen

Has it occurred to you that you have to actually listen to the answer scientists give when you ask for it? Further, what possible purpose could science have for this massive hoax? If the facts supported creationism, the scientific community would be made up of creationists. Have you considered the possibility that the assertions of creationism are just not what scientists are seeing?
john

Wrong sir

“If the theory of evolution was true, we should have discovered millions upon millions of transitional fossils by now.”

On what do you base that exactly? (other than ignorance) This statement reveals a massive depth of ignorance with regard to the formation and recovery of fossils. Firstly, the conditions necessary for a fossil to form are astoundingly unlikely, meaning that their formation is very rare indeed, and aside from the rarity of a fossil forming, it must then withstand innumerable environmental factors that could destroy it over the time between when it forms and when it is discovered. Then lets not forget, we must find these fossils which isn’t exactly like picking daisies. The idea that we should have millions and millions is just ignorant baseless nonsense.

Now with regard to the absence of transitional forms, again, the willingness of your like to turn a blind eye to evidence is astounding. Innumerable transitional forms exist. In the case of Homo sapiens, we were preceded by homo erectus, and habilis, erectus being a transitional form between habilis and sapien. In truth all forms are transitional forms from that which preceded it and that which comes after, as life is not static, but in a constant state of flux.

The most damning form of evidence against creation is in fact DNA. We can identify sequences of genes which are present in multiple and seemingly unrelated species but lie dormant in some. Why would reptilian genes be present in humans, for example, genes which serve no purpose but which did serve a purpose for our fore bearers if we did not belong to a common genetic family, derived from a common ancestor. Everything we know about genetics confirms a Darwinian view.

Now, to the crux of it. Science follows evidence to the most likely conclusions, the seeks to disprove itself. Once all reasonable doubt has been refuted we can establish our conclusions as fact. That is the only way to separate fact from fiction. Truth is the only agenda of science, truth which can be demonstrated to others, which anyone can examine and grant new insight to. Alternately religion begins with assumptions, based on nothing more than traditions, which themselves are based on the intuitions and imaginations of primitive men in an age before reason, and then seeks to reaffirm itself. It’s conclusions must be taken on faith because it is not based on evidence. They call it faith because it is not knowledge. The agenda of religion is to perpetuate itself in a sort of stasis of self deception, whereby no progress can be made as a matter faith, to protect ones own ego by a complete unwillingness to admit fault. Faith runs contrary to science on nearly every front because of this distinction.

BTW By what authority do you presume to refute the work of credible scientists? What qualifies you to make such determinations of evolutionary biology?
Mike

Seriously… we have evidence of modern day evolution. There are videos on Youtube of species from the 70’s adapting to completely new species in the 2000’s. 30 short years their diets, body forms have changed, and actually have new organs because of a simple habitat change. Would people let go of your holy books and open your eyes?
The only guy thinking

Hey, can you do me a favor? Just follow these few steps
1. Google all of your questions you put above.
2. Apologize to the rest of the internet/world of your ignorance.
3. Promise to actually research a topic before blindly writing some garbage.
Seriously, it’s people like you who make society look like idiots. I’ll even let you say that “It was all part of [insert your god here]’s plan”. But please, PLEASE for the sake of the millions of children still learning, do not teach this crap to anyone.
I shall happily await your apology.
r/atheism sent me

Thanks for the good laugh 😀
Spencer

This article is for humorous purposes only right?
Zack

If god was true we would have found evidence by now. OWNED.
Evolution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJYLT9TbRew

Because you’re too stupid to argue with. Enjoy.
Common Sense

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=list+of+transitional+fossils

Before trying to disprove something, Google it first.
Common Sense

“Why do we still have monkeys?? Didn’t they change into us??”

If “God” made us from dirt, why is there still dirt?
Common Sense

Also, just remembered something:

http://darryl-cunningham.blogspot.com/2011/06/evolution.html?evolution

Read it.
You guys are morons

The reality is that science, logic and reason all favor creationism. pfffffffffffffffffffffffffftttttttt.
David

Alright, so let’s assume that you’re right, and there are no “transitional” fossils. Now prove that all the animal fossils we have found were put there by god, without quoting the bible, and I will consider creationalism as an option.
Sinclair

Many years ago, lots of people died because of the measels, small pox and other diseases that nowadays not many people die of. This is because the people that were immune to it tended to live, and those that weren’t immune died. Soon the entire community was made of immune people. This shows a small step of evolution. There is much more evidence than that, this is only one piece of it.

Evolution is just a bunch of steps like these. New species are formed when a species gets separated by, say, a mountain. The two groups evolve to different needs, and eventually they evolve so much differently that, if the two groups were mixed back together, one member from one group cannot reproduce with a member of the other. By definition, these two groups of animals are now different species. Species don’t suddenly change into other species, they always branch off.

If some of the animals above were fossilized, each fossil would be part of a transition between species, so every one of them would be a transitional fossil. Fossils are always categorized to a specific species, never in between species, so it looks like that they aren’t transitional at first but they are.

Intelligent design as described in the Bible has no proof. It doesn’t even make sense. How can penguins and polar bears live in the garden of eden without dieing of the heat. How could the live on a wooden boat. Also, how do you fit that many animals on a boat? There are 6,000 species of reptiles, 9,000 birds, 1,000 amphibians, and 15,000 species of mammals.
Also the 20,000 species of fish would have died due to the change in PH level of the water due to rain. Even if all the animals fit, Noah and his family would only be able to take care of each animal for 2.78709677 seconds each day. It is obvious that the stories in the old testament are mythology.

Since evolution has a lot of proof and there are no alternate theories, it is taken as a fact. And by theory I mean scientific theory, which means there is a lot of good evidence in favor of it and none not in favor of it.
http://none Maz

Heyo, you REALLY need to google your answers before trying to disprove evolution off a website you already said was an advertisement for a book. Are you kidding me?

Question 1: go here – http://www.theistic-evolution.com/transitional.html

Question 2: go here – http://www.lucasbrouwers.nl/blog/2009/12/the-most-common-misconception-about-evolution/ it is a literal tree of life. its amazing how many species it covers.

Question 3:Way more complicated then it needs to be, Science is always finding more answers, if these questions have no answers currently, then they eventually will. Getting into the nitty gritty of how cells work is really making big deals out of small things. I have answered the first 2 questions so easily, the theory is solid just like any other (gravity and such), that evidence will come forth. Gods have nothing to do with it….
Bob

It never ceases to amaze me how stupid theists are.
paz

You are completly retarded.
Stephen

You do realise that scientist have actualy have found many fossils that date from the start of single cell life
Jesse

just to clear some things up for people trying to combat what the bible says about the history of the earth: it says that Earth as we know it is 10,000 years old…however the actual rock. the material that earth is made of is not specified to a date. Dont use an argument without validating it first.
Ivan

Yes yes yes
All these non believers letting in their 2 cents
The bible states for every believer there will be 100 non believers
Chumps – how can love and all the beauty exist in this world without GOD!!!
Wake up – bunch of idiots before it is too late
Michael

Whether you believe in evolution or not any logical thought process will tell you that even as speculated a first organism suddenly appeared it would have to have also, instantly, had the capacity to reproduce and sustain itself for whatever period of time it remained alive. If not it could not have passed on anything or “evolve” into anything and would have disappeared in to obscurity. The same applies to any other life forms that may have suddenly appeared. Not only does that first living thing have to come into being it must have the capacity for self replication. There is only one way that this could be and that is that it was CREATED. It is not logically possible for that first cell to “evolve” the ability to reproduce, it has to inherently have that capacity from the moment it first existed. So whatever you believe, scientist or otherwise the only explanation for that first living organism is that there is a Creator. Whether or not you believe in evolution the fact that it all started with a Creator is indisputable.
Justin Bills

Yea evolution doesn’t exist….glad we never evolved our brains to build modern houses and the iPhone I’m typing on….if evolution doesn’t exist we as a species would stay deadlocked in our thinking and ways of life. Religion is for the weak and simply minded
Too Tired

Please, if you’re going to refute the article, do so in its entirety. Choosing one aspect and virually writing a book about how it’s “false” doesn’t make the whole article suddenly wrong. Interesting point have been provided, to which the scientific community has simply thrown theoretical “evidence” at. While creationist excel at throwing around their unprovable beliefs, atheists are just as skilled at throwing nonsense as they are. Evolution, as a whole, has never in it’s entirety agreed with itself to create an entire theory. One idea clashes with another, but scientist use them separately to prove their own assumptions point by point. However, most creationists simply use “There are no holes in creationism. God is absolute no matter what you say” as a method of defense. This is simply unacceptable. Both parties assume they are correct without ever being able to prove themselves indefinitely. Try as you might, no one will ever win this battle. Christians will never let go of their claim to being enlightened beyond the need of scientific proof, while evolutionists will never be able to fully prove that evolution is anything more than a theory.

I think these theists should at least make things more interesting. Simply claiming that “Evidence is all around us in nature” is not enough to create an interesting debate in the least. However, seeing atheists simply throw insults regarding theist’s intelligence is just showing your own ignorance. Your theories are based on the “credability” of other people’s word. When you base everything you know on someone else’s word, you’re no more intelligent than those who hold the Bible as the “ultimate truth”.
mike

Your facts are wrong and you provide only sources of information when you are bashing evolutionists. the rest of your claims need to be cited. in a pre australopithecan time period it might have been harder to prove evolution but the truth is that we have found most of the missing links and fossils. as for the origin of life i suggest you look up “abiogenisis” there are your questions will be answered.

also dont hinder the power of your god by saying he couldnt have created man through evolution. gen 2:7 says “the LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.” perhaps god found it difficult to communicate to illiterate men in robes what a vacuole was so he said dust. after all the bible is littered with metaphors. whos to say he didnt create man through evolution?
Ben

Just a comment on the comments.

I have seen things such as (paraphrased):
“You use the term evolution where it is really Natural Selection. There is plenty of scientific evidence of Natural Selection, so you are wrong.”
You are right, technically speaking. But people generally use the term evolution as a broad sense. So if we were going to be technical we can break it down into Macro evolution and Micro evolution. So to follow the thought process, yes, there is plenty of evidence of Micro Evolution. Tons. We know so much from watching it happen. But Macro Evolution, not a shred of evidence. The article goes into specifics of that, species change, but not into any other type of species. Nobody has witnessed it, and nobody has found any proof of it. So if we are going to be specific, let’s be specific. But at that point you can’t use any evidence of Micro to prove support for Macro.

Or things such as (again paraphrased):
“You cite things wrong or only cite things when it supports your view”
Ok, you could be right. Let’s test that though to make sure we aren’t being led down a stray path with the articles line of thought. The comments saying stuff like this do not cite anything either. Please do! In fact, the article specifically says that he is calling you out to break down your argument into a simple layout. He also states that nobody has yet (implying that they can’t). So prove him wrong. Go do it. He posted his simple layout as to why he thinks it is wrong. Go show why it is right. Then respond to his statement and show why he is wrong. Caveat, I give kudos to a couple people for stating a response to the questions and/or posting a couple links, but most responses are not doing this. And to be clear, saying you are a fool and posting a youtube link is not a rebuttal.
Harry

I find it ironic that christians are demanding proof from scientists. It utterly astounds me that you couldn’t simply look around the world; at the plants and animals. Evolution is obvious just by observing what is there. In fact, there is so much evidence for evolution that you’d have to be delusional to not accept it. One thing I don’t get though is that even though evolution is proven, this doesn’t disprove the existence of God. Obviously, there are laws in nature, God could have easily created a system of evolution. But let’s stop and think for a second what that even means. God created everything? the laws of nature so that everything can exist on it’s own? What would the God even be, if not apart of everything, or in other words, God is simply the universe (or multi-verse). Does anyone really have a definition of the word “GOd” other than that which has created everything? The universe is made of parts that are constantly creating and destroying each other, and transmuting something into something else. If God set that up, then what does God even mean? God would essentially be the Big-bang, the origin of everything. However, Most scientists don’t believe the big-bang is the beginning, there are multi-verse and quantum theories to explain how this universe started.

Anyways, you christians are a funny lot. I do like the story of Jesus and what he said. THen again most of the bible was take from more ancient religions; people — it’s all human creation. It’s human wisdom passed down through history, mixed in with the stupid ideas of european men. many of the stories are ancient and pre-date the bible. I don’t want to divide us, I think Christians have the right idea of doing good. But I also believe intelligence is a virtue, and intelligence is to have doubts. Belief is the death of intelligence. You can see it in some of these posts .. someone says “why do we have monkeys if we came from them” .. I’m sorry but that just shows the ignorance in some people. The whole idea is that evolution creates branches, we didn’t come from monkeys, monkeys and us came from a common ancestor. it’s not so black and white. It’s mutation, we only put names on it because time is slow and we can say well, that thing there is THIS. The most important thing about anything is WHEN. At one point someone is a cell, suddenly a person. At one point something is described as a homo erectus, the next minute homo sapien — it is something different ENTIRELY, yet resulted from that which was before, GET IT? Millions of species all mutating and dividing and dying off. The universe is made up of the same thing, and what we witness is MOVEMENT in time.
kevin c

To the ones who say, “i can disprove creationism with one word – Dinosaur” are clearly ignorant about what Christians believe. We believe dinosaurs existed but not millions of years ago. When the word dinosaur is used, people tend to automatically think evolution. The very man that developed carbon dating said himself that he was wrong. He admitted he made a mistake and yet evolutionists continue to use it. That makes no sense. Also, look at the planets. If the universe came from a fast-spinning piece of dirt, why aren’t all the planets rotating the same direction? There are WAY too many holes in the THEORY OF EVOLUTION.
jaxman

Evolution is true ,and Bible is true but Bible is full of metaphors! You cant understand the Bible literally!
jaxman

PS greetings from Europe
kevin c

Actually, the Bible is something to be taken very literally. There are some parables in the Bible but they are to teach us valuable lessons. Do you believe God when He said He created the world in six days? If not, you don’t believe God is all powerful. To the people that say, “Well, God may have said it took six days but that’s not possible.” Is it more possible to believe He did it in 6,000 years? If any single being could create all that has been created even over 6000 years, that is still nothing less than amazing. What would be the purpose in creating the universe over that amount of time when it could have been done in 6 days? Evolution is simply something that has been forced into the minds of people from a young age and have been brainwashed to believe it. The Bible is factual just like the history books. People believe George Washington existed but nobody living today has ever seen him. The Bible is a history book that has been passed down for thousands of years. The Bible speaks of real places such as Rome and Israel and many other real places and real and historical events, therefore it is a book to be taken literally.
TheDoctor

Hello idiots of the world! Its a fine day, isnt it? The sun is up high, the wheel of Apollo’s chariot…oh…wait. Its a giant ball of flaming gas thousands of times bigger than Earth. Funny what religions assume, isnt it? Saying that micro evolution cant be used for macro is illogical. What the hell do you mean, transistors caused computers to be possible? You cant use small things like THAT! The person who asked about the rotation of the planets obviously doesnt know basic physics. Gravity isnt a current of a river that pulls things in a certain direction other than to itself. Gravity of the sun and centrifugal force balance out so you dont burn ir fly off to space. If two meteors collided and were flying to the same direction, gravity of the sun wouldnt alter their course, it would just settle them into a steady orbit in the sirection they were already going. Imagine how the world would be if scientists sat down and said “let everybody worship all day!” As you seemeingly want to happen. I’ll just take away your indoor plumbing, computer, sturdy house, supermarket, paved roads, cars, planes, and whatever else that isnt made by hand. Also, as a closing note, the people..who believe most feircely in The Bible, live in the mid-US. The concentration of rednecks there is rather high. Just an observation.
Zach hardy

Hey thank you I am a fellow Christian and going through school is tough with everybody saying evolution is real you have givven me some serious back up when talking too those people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tangri la

ooooh, wake up
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why think.. just choose your blind faith and boogie
Gerethar

A)the cooling down of Earth

#1 After the formation of our very own globe, the Earth started cooling down, eventually reaching the temperatures suitable for the formation of water.

#2 Once the Earth had water the formation of life was possible, but there wasn’t a single organism on Earth. Then Earth was hit by an asteroid which brought many single-celled organisms to Earth, making it possible for life to evolve.

#3 These organisms then became the kingdoms of or lives: Prokaryotes, Eukaryotes: Fungi, Bacterium, Animalia and Plantae. Life developed into more complexed organisms through million and millions of years of getting accustomed and surviving in the environment. The Earths living conditions varied (and it’s still happening e.g. globalal warming) during this time, creating different organsims. The creation of new organisms enforced the evolution of others as a new “competator” in survival arrived, may it have been a predator or a producer.

B) Why there are no transitional fossils.

#1 All fossils are transitional, it’s just that the animal stayed the same for millions of years only getting slight changes from the original animal.

#2 The animals which another animal has evolved from still may still be around, because evolution doesn’t suddenly change the entire species, but only makes variations in the species on certant individauls letting natural selection choose the best candidates to keep the species alive.

#3 Cats will always be cats and dogs will always be dogs, but it is not to say if a new species might evolve from cats or dogs, but the original species will always stay almost the same.

C) DNA and skeletal relations

#1 Primapes, like us and chimpanzees have a very close relation when it comes to compairing DNA and skeletal structures. We have very many same bones and our DNA matches to theirs with an difference of 0,01%. when comparing humans to earth worms the difference is 3%, indicating that we come from the same ancestor.

#2 Humans have a tailbone, which is used to nothing. our earlier forms did have use for tails, but evolution has not yet removed the tailbone completely.

#3 Compare humans to other mammals, say whales, our skeletal structures have similarities still. The whale fins skeletal structure is very similar to that of a human.

There’s your list hastily made by a upper secondary student.

Why creationism is completely illogical? Animals suddenly popped up on Earth along with water, men, plants. Then God needed Adam’s rib to make a woman. Also there were people outside the paradise even in the Bible, which by the way was written by humans, not God, and which has been altered several times in history to fit the churches wishes. There is no empirical evidence supporting the claims of the Bible, on the other hand, there are large amounts of evidence supporting Darwinism (I’d like to point out that the only proof for evolution you suggested was fossils, but proof can be found from DNA, skeletal structures, carbon dating, etc.) which seems a highly logical answer.

I’m not disproving God, I’m disproving creationism, which again is written by humans. If you want to believe in God go ahead, I’m not stopping. I’m just suggesting you believe Darwinism, I can go as far as saying that you can believe that it is God that started evolution, but please don’t mock the scientific community just because you prefer a few thousand year old story over reason and logic.

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VERY GOOD ARTICLE.
IF ANY MAN IS ENJOYING THE EVOLUTION LIE, THEY SHALL BE ASHAMED WHEN THE CREATOR GIVE US A GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE DURING JUDGEMENT DAY, WHICH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER. THE BIBLE IS A REMARKABLE BOOK. IT FORETOLD THE RISE OF THE KINGDOM OF BABYLON IN THE BOOK OF ISSIAH, BEFORE IT EVEN EXISTED. AMAZINGLY THE KINDON OF BABYLON CAME TO EXIST. IT HAS BEEN PROVED ARCHAELOGICALLY THAT THE KINGDOM OF BABYLON EXISTED INCLUDING ITS KINGS LIKE NEBUCADNEZZAR WHICH ARE MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE FORETOLD THE DESTRUCTION OF SAME BABYLON IN THE SAME BOOK, AND EVEN PREDCTED THE VERYMAN(CYRUS)AND KINDOM WHICH SHAL TOPPLE BABYLON BEFORE IT EXISTED. DURING THE KINGDOM OF BABYLON DANIEL BY A VISION FROM THE CREATOR WAS SHOWN THE RISE AND FALL OF THE KINGDOMS OF MEDO-PESIA, GREECE AND ROME IN THEIR PROPER SEQUENCE, AND THOSE KINGDOMS ARE HISTORICALLY AND ARCHAELOGICALLY PROVEN TO HAVE EXISTED. DURING THE LAST KINGDOM PREDICTED BY DANIEL(ROME) THE BOOK OF DANIEL FORETOLD THAT THE MESSIAH(JESUS) WILL BE BORN AND BE CRUCIFIED DURING THIS KINGDOM. DURING THIS TIME THE BIBLE FORETOLD THE RISE OF THE AND FALL OF THE PAPACY(ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH) HOW IT WILL MAGNIFY ITSELF THROUGH ITS POPES CLAIMING TO BE GODS, KILLING TRUE CHRISTIANS, RULING OVER KINGS AND DIRECTING THE WORLD AFFAIRS. HISTORICALLY THIS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TRUE. THE BIBLE FORETOLD THAT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL RULE FOR 1260 YEARS AND TEMPORARILY COLAPSE. THIS HAS BEEN HISTORICALLY PROVEN TRUE( THE PAPACY STARTED AT 538 AD TO 1798 WHEN NAPOLEON DISSOLVED THE OFFICE OF THE POPE). THEN THE BIBLE AMAZINGLY FORETOLD THE RISE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DURING THIS TIME, HOW IT WILL CONQURE THE WORLD WITH ITS PEACEFUL PRINCIPLES(REPUBICANISM AND PROTESTANTISM) UNTILL ALL THE WORLD IS UNDER ITS CONTROL. THIS ALSO HAVE BEEN SEEN BY MODERN ATHEISTS. THEN THE BIBLE SAYS THIS KINDOM WILL START PAYING HOMAGE, AND EXERCING THE AUTHORITY OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH WHICH HAS RESURECTED( RESURECTED BY MOSSOULINI) AS THE BIBLE PREDICTED AND WILL AGAING RULE OVER THE WORLD(WE ARE NOW FAITHFULLY INFORMED THT THE UNITED NATIONS IS AN AGENT OF THE PAPACY TO RULE OVER THE WORLD AGAIN, AS THEY HAVE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE NEW WORLD ORDER). NOW THIS ONE IS SERIOUS, THE BIBLE SAYS AFTER THIS, ALL MEN INCLUDING ATHEIST WILL RUN AFTER THE PAPACY( WE HAVE JUST HEARD LATELY THE POPE ANOUNCING THAT EVOLUTION IS A FACT) BUT BIBLE FORETELLS THT GOD WILL JUDGE THIS COMBINATION (EUCUMENICAL CHURCHES OF AMERICA, THE PAPACY(AND HIS FOLOWERS) TOGETHHER WITH ATHEISTS). AFTER THAT HE SHALL COME TO TAKE HIS OBEDIENT CHILDREN HOME. ALL THIS HAVE HAPPENED, THEN WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS WILL HAPEN WILL SURELY HAPEN, COZ GOD IS THE ONLYONE THAT KNOWS THE FUTURE. HE GAVE US THIS SIGNS THT WE MAY BELIEVE WHT HE SAYS, THATS WHY WE WILL DIE HOLDING OUR FAITH AND TRY TO WARN THOSE WHO REJECT THE TRUTH. MEANWHILE GOD IS WAITING FOR THOSE WHO ARE HONSTLY MISTAKEN TO STUDY THE FACTS FOR THEMSELVES AND REPENT, OTHERWISE IT WILL NOT BE WELL FOR THEM….
http://yahoo rachael

I always had a sense of wonder about our universe
you know universe means something, as a great creationist kent hovind pointed out: uni-single
verse- spoken sentence

I believe that jesus was the word made man and he died for my sins, rose again

Now, that mystery, of things unseen are being unveiled, I’ll never understand ow much he loves me, ’cause I cant see him, smell, touch, have conversations with him but have a feeling beyond belief that he is indeed the one and the only, I’ll live and die free, and for the truth
Jimmy

It’s funny how you try to point out the places where evidence of evolution is lacking, while on your side the only evidence you have is a book.
Blacksmith

Everything you said here could be easily disproven, if you had researched at all, instead of rushing to put out this… “Theory”. If you want a very long and scientifically backed up with physical evidence email, then e-mail me (********************) and I will answer any question you send me LOGICALLY. And by logically, I mean no “ur a retarded this wont make sens.” or, “THE BIBLE DISPROVEZ EVERYTHINg11!!!!111!!!!”. Seriously. Handle this like a mature person.
Blacksmith

Oh, and your so-called “Judgement Day” passed without a hitch. Just saying.
griff

” incredibly elaborate cover story” I believe this phrase better describes Christianity. Religion is the denial of change.
griff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent I think this is plenty of evidence. And can you explain to me how the bible is a reliable source of information?
Maggie

Further to other evolutionists, there is a lot of evidence for evolution, making evolution the logical start to life on Earth. I personally do believe in God, but that we shouldn’t use God as just a way to fill gaps in our knowledge. Didn’t disease used to be thought of as caused by God, when we now understand disease to be caused by microscopic bacteria and viruses? The Bible has it’s flaws as it was written by humans, maybe the creation story is a simplification of the start of the universe and life (first light was made: Big Bang which was pure energy, etc etc). Surely God isn’t found when you dig deeper and deeper into the universe to find something you can’t explain yet, but in the whole picture… isn’t it an amazing proof of God that all this magically intricate universe happened? Big Bang, evolution and all.
Fellowman

To start I would like to say that it is refreshing to hear someone mention, as you did at the end of your article, the sentiment that perhaps we can all learn from one another. Quite true. Often left out of these types of debates.

I am by no means an authority on any of this. Just another fellow trying to figure out what is going on in the midst of a lot of chaotic events. My upbringing was one that has predisposed me to the truth of Christianity. It wasn’t until relatively recently that I even thought questioning the Bible was an “ok” thing to do. The concern of risking my eternal soul has loomed large in my past. Some might read what I have to say and think that I am over compensating and going too far in the other direction. Let me know what you think.

There is a lot of convincing evidence for the theory of evolution. The main piece of support comes not from the field of biology, but rather from the science of astrophysics. Our insignificance is very significant. The fact that the earth is not the center of the solar system, nor is the sun at the center of the galaxy, nor is ours a sole galaxy but one among billions is a humbling reality. There isn’t anything special about our place in the universe. We aren’t at the center of anything. This is a concept that I find to be at the same time disquieting and awe inspiring. To base our understanding of our own origin on stories in a piece of human literature that have been accumulated over thousands of years doesn’t seem like a great starting point.

There is much to be learned from the Bible. It is a great early attempt to synthesize meaning out of the diverse clutter of purposeless calamities that beset all of us as we go through life. However it doesn’t seem to be much use to us in the area of scientific inquiry, other than as an artifact of human culture. And it is even more useless when it comes to the needs of the moment. The needs of the day.

Now we live in a world where multiple cultures are being forced into one another’s everyday awareness. In the past people groups could have their own transcendent truths and insist upon them because others who insisted upon rival and repellent truths lived far far off. No longer is this the case. Multiculturalism is our current state and it is an untenable condition. Cultures can’t be crammed in with one another with out some sort of conflict.

That is why there is some benefit to the idea of evolution. It has a unifying power. We are all connected as members of the human race on earth, and beyond that all life on earth is related. Unfortunately over the course of human history people have risen to positions of power who have entertained notions that some are better than others. That one race of man, or one gender of humanity for that matter, is better then another. The evolutionary story runs contrary to this damaging idea. While this fact alone does not bear on the truth of the theory it does bear on the consequence of the world view.

Jesus’ message was that we are all brothers and that compassion should rule in our interactions throughout life. He did not come saying, “I come to fulfill the law and the prophets and thou shalt read literally the story in Genesis as an historical account of how life on earth came to be.” I could be quite wrong on the matter, but I don’t seem to remember him making any such assertions. He always tried to reorient his followers towards what was truly important. Love, compassion, unity. In other words not insisting on one’s own importance, or convincing others of the rightness of our own beliefs, or on how central an individual is to the story of humanity.

Evolution levels the playing field. It has a unifying power in that it doesn’t set anyone of us ahead of the other in terms of the story it tells. We are here because we survived, and because our ancestors survived before us. This is awesome and amazing, and not divisive. All of the hard work about what our lives are going to mean and what kinds of people we choose to be is still ahead of us. We get to decide because we as humans have recently become aware that humanity is a blank slate upon which we can write any story we want. And who among us, no matter how brutish we might think them, is going to respond by saying ‘I want to be the bad guy in the story of humanity on earth’?
Steve

Well, that was good for a laugh, but really your totally debunkable. For one thing, some of the best “transitional” fossils exist in our own family tree. Not only ancestors, but cousins, with Neanderthals DNA having even been sequenced and our own found to contain (with the exclusion of Africans) around 6% of it. Evolution is a theory, but it is also a fact. But if you want to believe god came down from heaven and made people out of dirt, you go right ahead sparky. Just be ready to turn that other cheek because to real scientists, your a laughing stock.
Deafboy

We dont have a fossil of Jesus… he is not real?
Deafboy

Not believing in evolution is an insult to God’s plan. Are you saying God wasted millions of years of work on Earth to create only few thousand year of Human experience on Earth. Human is nothing compare to the amazed powers of universe.
william

now wait just a moment……….out of all the atheists here you guys have not answered one question and that is what evolved first the heart the blood or the blood vessals…..im waiting and one thing. EVIL is what you guys are……all of you trying to convince somebody into your thinking and im guilty myself ooooh and let me see this if you guys believe purely on evolution when you die where do you go if nowhere then you might as well choose christianity because if we are right you will go to hell better safe than sorry and this is not disprovapalooza here we CHRISTIANS state our opinion because when he gives you a question you do not really answer and stop talking to the computer and just reply already down here ↓↓↓↓↓↓↓
william

and for the ”fossil” people remember the wooly mammoths they were with us and died out add a little bone in the ground with rocks put them in a blender and hit fráápe you got a fossil
ps that was just a metaphor. for the dunces
william

i guess our planet is not special because everything has life on this heck i saw some martian on the way from work and even sat at lunch with superman
william

hey looking up stuff is a good idea, what should i type oh how about i try how to disprove evolution, and enter………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….im back? gee how is that possible
william

by time man fully evolved it was dangerous and us blood bags made of flesh would not endure the harsh conditions of weather, chance, and disease but i should have researched this stuff hmmmm.
william

frogs!…………………………………………………………….oh we are not just randomly saying our favorite animals, well did your head get drop recently because dinoosaurs have nothing to do with this unless you are a dinosaur yourself
william

wait controdition alert one person said that the neanderthals are 6% of us and we supposedly evolved from them but another person says it is 99% of us and he is talking about chimps some thing farther away from the evolutionary line and somebody said that evolution is a theory and fact…wut? oh and the bible was written by man because i dont know if you’ve noticced but god has no physical hands that is why the whole world in his hands are metophorical
http://signsofthelastdays.com/archives/how-to-disprove-evolution David

@ Blacksmith
What do you mean when you said our “Judgement Day” has passed?

This website has been helpful in learning about both Christian views and opposite views.
I respect the people who follow science to where it leads them, like the people in the video, but others just follow “science” with as much “nonsense” that we have. What I mean by that is when they just cling onto their beliefs but not justifying them. Please give me more information on how you can prove your views are more legit than mine and I would be happy to read them.
Joshua

I like how atheists seemingly seek out to disprove a being (our lord) that they deny. The reality is, unless your mind is so full of arrogance, how do you know there is no god? No matter what you believe, your feeble mind cannot disprove
God. Yet atheists are so arrogant that they somehow know there isnt a god. Whatever floats your boat, and i love how you deny it on a christian site. Havent anything better to do?

I believe in adaptations, but creationism makes
More sense to me honestly. I wont preach my theories, but i trust our god and not theories of mere
Man. Continue riding upon your arrogance and ignorance atheists, and feeling that your superior to christians and people who believe in a higher power. Your man just like we are, you arent superior or smarter.
Deafboy

What is different between atheist and agnostic? I am agnostic and I do believe in God, not in religions. Religions are no difference from picking between democracy and republican parties.
All I am saying is that we all are same and equal, no matter what religion we are. We all going to die and who knows what heaven or hell looks like. The main goals for human race are to survive and to care for others.
http://signsofthelastdays.com/archives/how-to-disprove-evolution David

Totally agree with above statement.
When you put some evidence against atheists they turn to a state of denial.
william

okay, sorry about this christians because i’m christian too, but i think if you aren’t going to be a christian please believe in a god-like entity(s) i would even perfer the devil than being atheist because you have someone to keep order in your life
william

and also without religon there is no moral, think about it, without any otherworldly punishment government would not exist because killing someone would just be life and we all could be cannibals because we see many other humans around us made of meat and we are pretty big and just because the person could not hunt deer and rabbits they turn on all humanity and stuff like this would happen alot, brother turn on brother, spouse on spouse it is INHUMANITY
Michael

Back in January I wrote post number 52. So far no one has come up with an explanation of how evolution started. By definition evolution is the gradual development of something, esp. from a simple to a more complex form.
Ok for the time being accept that is the case. If this is true we should be able to work backwards to a point in time when there was a first life form. Can anybody explain to me how that first life form was able to reproduce and pass on it’s genetics to the next generation? Remember evolution doesn’t take place in the existing generation, change is passed on to future generations. How did that first living organism evolve when nothing preceded it? Even if a collection of proteins came together in a primordial soup to form life that is where it would end as nothing “evolves” in itself. Evolution only takes place when something reproduces. It is the chicken and egg argument. Does anyone have a lucid answer as it may help bring some logic to the issues being discussed? Ultimately all human knowledge is based on faith and reason.
Brianna

It’s so refreshing to see a real taste of the Truth. All your arguments are indisputable and totally point toward the existance of Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit.

Here, I will quote Michael Franzese. “Evolution is the biggest joke ever played on mankind. I don’t have anything in common with a tiger, a turtle, or an ameoba, except the fact that we were made by the same Creator.”
william

okay this is stupid why do people want to hurt others. when you say there is no god then there is no heaven so after death there is nothing. also how can there be just an end, think about it. no more active bodies, no more existence……….just nothing
Blacksmith

The Bible isn’t a reliable source of information. We don’t even know who the author was… You can believe whatever you want, but you can’t say others are wrong simply because the Bible doesn’t say that that happened. The Bible is an excellent moral standard, but not a scientific report.
Blacksmith

I bookmarked this as Idiocity en Pure… Your sole piece of evidence is a website that advocates someone to read a book. Please, slap yourself, splash some cold water in your face, and look in the mirror. Look at any REAL scientific website. Go to the Natural History museum, and see for yourself the relics of the world that was. Read the bible. Yes, it’s a wonderful story to educate ourselves on moral standards, but it is, in essence, a fairy tale. It gives us a grand story of magic and gods and mystery, and teaches us good morals. It is not, however, the history of the universe. Look into the sky, see the wonders of all of creation. The everexpanding globes and pinwheels of gases and stars and planets and black holes… Life yet unknown to us, and yet surely there. Maybe there is a god, maybe he told us this bible story because we were to foolish to understand the Big Bang, and atoms, and galaxies, so long ago. Maybe he still moves among the stars, sharing his stories with the countless civilizations in the vast expanse of our universe.

Who knows.
Not me, and certainly not you.
Blacksmith

Ok, just saw someone say noone can say how evolution started.

It never started. It is a fact of life, as long as life has been here. Sometimes, when an organism reproduces, there is an error in the genetic structure of the child. This can be small, or large, or completely cosmetic, as many human mutations are. If the gene is carried on, and becomes more successful than other members of the species, it can eventually usurp or diverge from the origional species. This way, a creature can recieve a mutation that helps it, which will allow it to carry this gene onward through the generations, adapting the species better and better to its environment. If the gene hurts the abilities of it’s organism, it will be less successful and naturally be cut out of the gene pool over time.

Elementary, my dear Watson.
Blacksmith

Remember judgement day? The whole thing about rapture happening on last year’s May 21st or whenever it was? Yah, that’s a great example of how foolish you lot are. How are you different from any other religion that has come and gone in the history of the human race? What makes you better than the Egyptians, the Aztecs, the Phillipines, the Incans, the Mayans, the Muslims, the Jewish, the Buddah, the Greek, the Romans, the Celtics, the Nordics, the Native Americans, the Africans, the Chinese, the Japanese, and the Russians? What makes you so special?
Michael

Hi Blacksmith, you are missing the most significant point. An organism can only reproduce if it exists in the first place..that means it had to have a starting point. It amuses me that people are prepared to believe that the world or life has always been there or created itself but aren’t prepared to believe that God has always been there. By definition God is uncreated and there is no evidence to suggest that the world as we know it has been here forever. In fact whether you are a scientist or a creationist the vast majority agree that the world has been been 6,000 and 16 million years, which means life had to start after the earth was formed. The fact that we can observe new stars and galaxies forming from gasses indicates that no planet has been here for ever. Also, regarding life elsewhere, that is up to God, however it is highly unlikely that life exists elsewhere because of the extraordinary circumstances needed for life to exist in the first place despite the billions of stars and galaxies in the universe. One thing is for certain you and I are going to die one day. If I am right and obey God’s Laws, hopefully I will have eternal life in Heaven. If I am wrong I will never know. You however, have a potential problem as if you are right ,like me you will never know, but if you are wrong you are going to have to do some fancy footwork to explain to your Creator why you denied him and actively tried to undermine him. Good Luck! You are fortunate that God is Merciful!
Michael

Hi Blacksmith. You asked the question “How are you different from any other Religion which has come and gone in the history of the human race? It is a valid and important question because the future of mankind depends on the answer being true. You mention a number of Races, Cultures and Religions, some past and some present who have different belief systems. The significant difference with Christianity is that it’s founder is the only one to declare that he is the Son of God (The Father and I are One ) to declare His purpose as giving His life for the remission of sins for all Mankind and to have risen from the dead. Jesus existence is not disputed and details of His mission miracles and teachings have been passed on by word of mouth and in writing for the past two thousand years. His Miracles and His Resurrection were witnessed by many and very accurate details of His Life and Death were predicted in writing by many prophets hundreds of years before his coming. try reading Psalm 22, written by King David 1000 years before Christ and compare ithe precise details to those described in the The New Testament.
In fact His impact was so dramatic that we even measure time as before and after his coming. 2012 AD (Anno Domini , the year of Our Lord)) means it is 2012 years since He came into the world as True God and True Man. We also have Jesus’ guarantee that His Church would last forever. It will not fall no matter what is thrown against it.
Something is either true or it isn’t. Truth is Truth. If Jesus is Truth then all other religious beilefs by definition, must be wrong. If God has taken the trouble to come into the World with a message of salvation for us can you think of anything more important than for us to listen and follow whatever He asks? Blacksmith, we aren’t talking about Santa or the Tooth Fairy here, we are talking about the whole of Eternity, your eternity and mine. Surely it is worth a serious look. You have everything to gain if you seek To know the Truth. Good Luck on your journey. I will be praying for you as you are clearly seeking answers. Get yourself. Copy of The Bible and read a few chapters. you won’t regret it.All the best.Michael
Eoin

This is very interesting. I appreciate you writing this up in order to dispel what appears to be a false theory.

It has certainly put me back on the fence of not knowing the mechanism for the origin of life, however you weaken your position by just a small bit of a poor logic. Even if all the proof against Darwinist evolution is true, you can’t use that to prove another theory. If another theory is true, it must stand on its own, not be fed by the death of another theory (unless there is absolute certainty that there are only 2 theories, which is not the case).

Then there’s this: “the earth was formed out of water and by water” “Isn’t that so true?”
No… why would it be? Is that supposed to be self-evident somehow?
You might as well have (alternatively) said “The universe was made out of unicorn sparkles, that’s why things are shiny. Isn’t that true?”.
You’re disproving 1 theory only to place something that sounds even more ridiculous in its place. If you can’t even accept that then you’re not going to gain much ground with the good research you’ve done.
Joe Hartgrave

This isn’t proof, this is a lack of understanding.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1377173672 Bryan Richards

you tube abiogenesis, or look up nasa finds dna analogs (cyanide and hydrogen reactions), or look up the cassiopia project.

“proof” against the theory is usually comprised of holes (arguments from ignorance), or mechanisms that have been discarded in favor of others that have stronger backing due to better evidence. i am sorry you found this remotely convincing.
http://www.facebook.com/Siknasa9 Randy Curry

First off, evolution does not require faith because it is based on observations of collected data. One has no need to “believe” evolution because if you have 2 brain cells, you can go out and view the data for yourself. It’s not based in bronze-age conjecture from desert dwelling sheep farmers (and don’t tell me that God wrote the Bible because the Bible says so. Your circular logic is invalid). The kinds of people that created the device you’re reading this on came to the conclusion that evolution is an observation of reality through logic and reason imposed upon the facts of the matter. If you’re too dumb or lazy to review those facts, it doesn’t mean your ignorance is equally valid.

No one has deliberately forgotten your truths. They came to find that your book was quite mistaken about a great many things, and so disregard it for advice or authority on any matter. For instance: your book says everything was created in 7 days. You can interpret that as a metaphor, but then wouldn’t the whole thing be an allegory? And on whose authority does one distinguish fact from metaphor? Therefore it’s not an authority on observe reality. Our eyes and ears are the greatest authority of distinguishing the state of the universe, and they can ascertain the origins of the cosmos; let alone ourselves. With the help of the technologies that science has provided. Such as the device you’re reading this on. Which is not just an entertainment box for Bible quotes and porn. Tools are only as useful as their operator.

Another thing about your book and your God is that, whatever good feelings they give you, they are NOT omnipotent or divine authority, regardless of your opinion. If that were the case, they would be revealed in a more corporeal way for those that need such a corporeal revelation. Therefore, regardless of your beliefs, it doesn’t change the fact that we have observed the evidence of evolution among other theories.

I feel at this point it is important for me to define the word theory as used in science. It is a guess, you are correct in that assumption. Though it is a complex, educated guess with many interoperable parts leading to a final conclusion. One must test every part of a theory so that they know the whole is correct. Even if a piece of a theory is wrong, it doesn’t, necessarily, mean the entire theory is. It may just need adjustment in order to comply with observations. Or it could be garbage. That’s what the scientific method does: it weeds out garbage, in essence. You ought to refer to Richard Feynman on that topic. The misconception of science is that scientists, like theists, just believe whatever is thrown at them. No, scientists are skeptical of literally everything. Else, they are not scientists at all. We require evidence or the matter is either untrue or inconsequential. Christians will accept anything as long as a guy that purports to know what God was trying to say in his 2000 year old book tells them what to believe it says. Completely disregarding reality. Even some of the realities of what that book says.

There may come a day when science finds the theory of evolution insufficient to describe the processes involved in the emergence of life on earth and may have to adapt it to new understandings of reality. If science is righteous, and it is, superstition will never be the replacement. An extension of the current theory will because that is the reality of space-time within our bubble called earth. Whether you like it or not, evolution is a fact. The understanding of the process is a theory.
Anon

It saddens me how flimsy the argument for creationism is, it saddens me vastly more that there are people stupid enough to believe it alive in my life time. Creationists ask for proof, yet all they offer is a few select verses from the bible, while evolution has foils, theory of migration, big bang theory, and the theory of adaptation. I promise you the earth is older then a few thousand years, I’ve lived enough of those years not to be so blind.
Michael

All apes have 24 pairs of chromosomes. Humans have 23 pairs. This could only happen if we shared a common ancestor, and at some point one of the chromosomal pairs fused. Thanks to the wonder of science, we in fact find evidence for this. We find the DNA sequences from two separate chromosomes in great apes (chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans) have been fused at chromosome 2 in humans.
How do we know they have been fused? Aside from having the DNA sequences of two separate chromosomes mentioned previously, a living thing cannot simply “lose” a chromosome, or it would not live and procreate. We also find remnants of a second centromere in chromosome 2, chromosomes normally only have one. Telomeres also only normally appear at the ends of chromosomes, however in chromosome two there are vestigial telomere sequences found in the middle.
Scientific proof. Much better than believing a sky-god created the world, waited a few billion years, then informed illiterate stone age nomads in the desert of his existence. Afterwards this story was written down by anonymous authors with no originals.
Luis Hernandez

Kevin C, of course nobody has seen George Washington… he’s dead! And he’s been dead since 1799. There are still records of him. Also, about your little “God created the earth in 6 days”, I personally believe it’s impossible, because of current observations of stars, planets, and our laws of physics (gravity) prove otherwise, and the formation of Earth took millions of years. I believe in God being almighty and powerful, but he did not literally create Earth in 6 years. More like 60,000,000 years.n
Maria#1directioner

Everybody out there who believes in evolution is stupid and ignorant, to put it simply. The only thing I have to say to all the evolutionists out there is that perhaps you evolved from apes because your stupid enough to believe in evolution, but I did not. I evolved from Adam and Eve; the first two people that GOD put on the Earth. I believe that the only reason evolutionists believe in evolution and not God is because they don’t have enough faith in themselves to believe anything other than what is handed to them.
Supporter

Now this is only my own view of the subject, so please do not be offended. I don’t have all of the answers, but this is what I have come up with so far.

The “flimsy” argument for creationism is actually quite robust, as long as you look deeply into the topic. For example, it is a fundamental belief of creationism that God has not only existed forever, but is also not a created being. Before you go to tell me that it is illogical to base your entire belief off of the presumption that the creator of the universe is all powerful and eternal, let me ask you, how long had the mass from the big bang existed? Better yet, where did that matter come from? If you ask then how an all powerful being was able to create the universe, then wouldn’t that be an answer to your own question? An all-powerful-being. I cannot stress that more.

Now before attack the ethics of Christianity, let me remind you that this argument is on creationism vs. evolution. Creationism is not only from Christianity, so I will merely ask you to please refrain from any rude messages about the religion.

My next argument is if there are indeed transitional organisms, then if their minute changes are too hard to detect or to detect easily, then isn’t that the same as believing in a creator who designed each being? It takes faith to believe in both theories. On the account of dinosaurs, I would like to point you Genesis 11: 1-8. In it, it is mentioned that all people were in one area, but were eventually separated by God. Doesn’t this sound like Pangaea? Now about dinosaurs, it would be possible that they couldn’t adapt to the new climate and died out.

Now to address the stupidity of Deafboy’s comment, if he actually knows anything about Christianity in detail, he will know that Jesus was resurrected into heaven…

I will not say I have all of the answers, since I don’t, and I will not say that my answers are necessarily correct, since there is probably an inaccuracy at some point. All in all, these are my arguments, and please feel free to comment on this, as long as it is a meaningful counter argument, not another biased response.

P.S. Not a bad argument for a 15 year old, huh?
Supporter

There has never been a single time that the bible was historically inaccurate, regarding the parts that are not “religious.” And the Bible wasn’t written 2000 years ago by the way. Anyway, to explain miracles, my answer is if you catch an apple, it is no longer falling, but you have not broken the laws of physics. You are merely temporarily intervening. If you can intervene with the laws of physics on a low level, then an all powerful deity should be able to intervene with the laws of physics on a higher level. And to address evolution being a fact, I would like to ask you to look back at this theory 1000 years from now, if that were possible. Science changes, and evolution, by the way, is a THEORY. Religion may “change” but if you look to the roots, it is essentially the same. I am not looking to the corrupt church, but my own personal bible and study. this is my answer, i will not treat it as fact, but this is what I have.
Fraser

“… which somehow popped into existence”
Strange, you criticise evolutionists for that, yet creationism relies on the belief that we just popped into existence. It seems to me that you are ignorant and refuse to even look at the evidence for evolution. I do not mind you believing in your imaginary friend and how he clapped his hands so we’d all exist, but the moment you try to explain things this badly and turn people away from scientific fact, I hate you.
X

1. Matter can be “created” in a vacuum.
2. Technically all species are in a transitional form because they are constantly evolving, some transitional forms cannot be found in the fossil records because speciation can occur quickly or slowly (gradualism vs punctuated equilibrium). It is not the same as believing in a creator because there is no evidence to support the theory of a creator, while there is evidence that points to the existence of transitional forms (flippers vs arms, vestigial structures, DNA).
3. Pangea gradually began to break up about 175 mya, and the dinosaurs went extinct (very suddenly) around 65-66 mya. Additionally, continental drift occurs at ridiculously slow speeds, the dinosaurs had plenty of time to adapt and evolve in response to environmental changes.

P.S. No, it was pretty bad. Nice try though.
GreatSpaceButterfly

To Gerethar: How did the organisms on the asteroid evolve?
Michael Siddle

Hi Randy, Why do you think it is called the “theory” of evolution. It is because no scientist has the remotest idea of the first cause. If the evidence was as strong as you portray then by now someone would have proved it. It will never be proven because the theory is wrong at least as to the first cause of life in the first place. Any logical mind working backwards to the very first lifeform quickly works out that it could not have “evolved” the capacity to reproduce or contain the genes and DNA necessary to do so.
tiford

my favourite bit:
“In reality the Cambrian explosion was about 50 million years long… Of course this is a bunch of nonsense”
lol ok if you say so
I’ve wasted so much time reading this bollocks
Jkeb e-b

if you read the bible, he ascended into heaven
Jkeb e-b

This was very helpful for in preparing for a Creationism vs. Evolution trial I will be engaging in, thank you for this article. As the lawyer for the Creationist, I now have great arguments against the Evolutionists
Drew Hadz

Sherlock Holmes talks of real places too thus it must be true!
Drew Hadz

hard to see the macro when it is that damned slow… You know birds and dinosaurs have the same damned bone structure right?

Evolution evidence = Gigantic
Creationism = Parlor Tricks and lies
jb

oh you don’t need your tailbone? please remove it from it your body and tell us how you will stand up…wow. the tailbone is a major anchor point for your biggest muscles.
oh and you think your cat or dog will just turn into a different animal? I think you need professional help. what a fantasy to believe a change can occur when you have never seen one species change into another. yes adaptation can occur I agree. but a bigger/smaller/hairier/faster/(what have you) dog is still a dog. the dog and cat are not going to reproduce and make a cat dog. pull your head out of your ass.
Jake Fritzinger

Are you serious? These defenses are so poorly supported.
1/2) If you honestly believe that archeologists should have found the missing pieces by now, you know nothing about it. You can’t say we should have related fossils when we’ve only found a couple, at most, of one type of dinosaur at a time. There are BILLIONS of undiscovered extinct creatures.

3) This is just ignorant beyond belief. No knowledgable evolutionist thinks an animal “turns into” another animal. It’s a transition of environmental adaptation over thousands, hundreds of thousands of years. Not even humans look exactly how they used to. CORN has grown larger through artificial selection. We have successfully experimented evolution. DOGS were once wolves, and through artificial selection have grown “cuter” from humans choosing the cuter ones, and nicer through companionship. Animals don’t randomly grow successful traits on purpose. They get random DNA mutations, such as a skin pigment difference, like a polar bear from a grizzly bear. You think that’s not possible? Say that to the little girl with a birth mark covering half her face.

When did an evolutionist stutter to answer those questions you mentioned? To answer all of them: celled organims. The baby stage of evolution.

Many don’t have “mouths” or anything. They absorb either other organisms, or sunlight for energy. Who ever said you NEED what we have to live? Do you not know about plants? Do you not know about the relation of ALL types of animals. Not all animals NEED a mouth. Not all animals NEED a digestive system. Not all animals NEED bones/tendons/ etc. Which came first soley depends on which mutated animals that got a small amount of any of these mutations survived the longest.

*I also have screenshots of my responses, and noticed replies need to be approved. I trust arguments against the article won’t be deleted, but I will make sure that doesn’t go unnoticed if they do.*
Jake Fritzinger

It’s ignorant and stupid to call someone ignorant and stupid without a defense. Think about the word ignorant, and think about where you’re getting your information about God and creationism: An old book with no present-day evidence. Evolution, in it’s literal meaning (the constant transition of beings) is fact. Do you look EXACTLY like your parents? No, because we change. Put that over hundreds of thousands of generations, and you get only meager results, but results nonetheless.

And I’m sorry to tell you this, but putting faith God, is not putting faith in yourself. Atheists, or any other similar religions are putting faith in themselves. They don’t need to say “Oh it’s part of God’s plan” to comfort themselves. They don’t need to pray to feel better. They have their own backs. So that argument made no sense at all. All the things you said you support are entirely on blind faith. That means you believe it without real evidence. Evolution is supported by so many pieces of current-day evidence.

I’d say nice try, but I’d be lying.
pharside

It’s all theory. Nothing repeatable. Nothing observable. Nothing transitional. Read- No evidence. If one really studies the evidence, the only reason to still subscribe to this theory, is a complete disinclination to accept the idea of a creator.
pharside

The very first line of your argument is a delusion. “First off, evolution does not require faith because it is based on observations of collected data.”
What data? What evidence? You just defined the scientific method, then went on to claim a theory as a fact, with no evidence.
pharside

“There are only two possibilities as to how life arose; one is
spontaneous generation arising to evolution, the other is a supernatural
creative act of God, there is no third possibility. Spontaneous
generation that life arose from non-living matter was scientifically
disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others. That leaves us with
only one possible conclusion, that life arose as a creative act of God.
I will not accept that philosophically because I do not want to believe
in God, therefore I choose to believe in that which I know is
scientifically impossible, spontaneous generation arising to evolution.”
-Dr. George Wald, evolutionist, Professor Emeritus of Biology at the University at Harvard, Nobel Prize winner in Biology.

This quote very effectively sums up the entire evolutionist argument. There simply isn’t any verifiable evidence, or observable or repeatable data support the theory. But the only alternative is creation. If it was creation, that requires a creator. God if you will. If there is a God, there is potentially someone to be held accountable to. Refusal to accept the possibility of creation has absolutely nothing to do with science. In fact it is the complete antitheses of the Scientific Method. You can’t deny your results just because you don’t like them. You change your theory.
Drew Stegman

Good article. I am a Christ follower and I can confirm that we are most definitely living in the last days, for God has shown me himself through various dreams and visions. He has also shown me that America is modern day Babylon, and has anointed me to warn people (Read Jeremiah 50:51 and Revelation 18 to see what I mean)

And if you don’t believe in God, well that’s your loss, because I know for a fact he is real, and I also know that Jesus Christ is returning soon.

God bless,
Drew
Drew Stegman

Read about the bible prophecies that are coming true as I write this message. Here’s a place to start: REVELATION.

Wake up out of your slumber you ignorant moron, Jesus Christ is coming soon.
Mika

The coccyx (/ˈkɒksɪks/ kok-siks; plural: coccyges or coccyxes), commonly referred to as the tailbone, is the final segment of the vertebral column in humans and apes, and certain other mammals such as horses. In animals with bony tails, it is known as tailhead or dock, in bird anatomy as tailfan. It comprises three to five separate or fused coccygeal vertebrae below the sacrum, attached to the sacrum by a fibrocartilaginous joint, the sacrococcygeal symphysis, which permits limited movement between the sacrum and the coccyx.In humans and other tailless primates (e.g., great apes) since Nacholapithecus (a Miocene hominoid),[5][6] the coccyx is the remnant of a vestigial tail, but still not entirely useless;[7] it is an important attachment for various muscles, tendons and ligaments—which makes it necessary for physicians and patients to pay special attention to these attachments when considering surgical removal of the coccyx.[8] Additionally, it is also a part of the weight-bearing tripod structure which acts as a support for a sitting person. When a person sits leaning forward, the ischial tuberosities and inferior rami of the ischium take most of the weight, but as the sitting person leans backward, more weight is transferred to the coccyx.[8] ~Wikipedia

Basically, while the tailbone has /some/ use, it isn’t necessary for life.

And, with your second example with the cats and dogs, that is because cats and dogs don’t have enough DNA in common with each other. However; If you take a horse and a donkey of opposite sexes, they will mate and the female will give birth to a mule. A mule is its own species. A lion and a tiger would make a Liger, once again, it’s own species.
Richard Donahue

What evidence are you looking for or what evidence have you looked at that determines no evidence?

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